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07-21-2019, 10:12 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Calgary
Posts: 60
M.O.C. #21572
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Installing Water Filtration 3720
We made the decision to install a Water Express 5 stage filtration system (with RO and UV). The installation was not to bad considering the small space in the island. 2 things I thought I would share;
1) How the Installation Went - in the island of the 3720 is a drain pipe and power. The entire corner is blocked off with a panel, first thing I did was remove this panel and the cutting board storage (under the sink right side). I then glued and screwed a 24”wide by 20” high piece of 3/8” plywood. The filter unit was mounted to the plywood, centred under the sink. To do this meant removing the sink drain piping. I moved the cutting board storage divider to the left side of the island instead of the 45deg drain pipe divider. The storage tank is just right of the new cutting board divider. A picture is worth a thousand words so a few are attached.
2) The Water Quality - first trip out with the unit and I must say its great . . . . It may be that we have great water at this first site. The reason we installed the unit is that we had always brought 4L jugs of water for drinking and cooking. It has been a must to have great water and not take any chances. This gives us great water, and no chance of bacteria as well as eliminating the plastic bottles and the pain of getting/hauling/storing water.
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Perry & Karen, Calgary, Alberta
2017 F350 SRW CC 4X4 6.7L — 2018 Montana 3720RL
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07-21-2019, 11:30 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 894
M.O.C. #14417
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Nice work. It is nice not to have to buy gallon jugs of water. I have a three stage under the sink.
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Lenny and Ros
2012 Montana 3400RL,680 Watts Solar,4xT-105 Trojans,GP-ISW2000-12 Inverter,Trimetric 2020, EMSHW50C
2009 Chevy Silverado 3500 LTZ Duramax 4x4 CC Dually, Banks Speed Brake
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07-22-2019, 06:33 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Fulton
Posts: 456
M.O.C. #20688
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Is this an issue in Canada, I’ve never been but going next year while traveling to Alaska.
I’ve never had a water problem but we run a softener and the blue carbon filter.
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Wayne & Malinda
2018 Montana 3731FL
MORryde IS/DiscBrakes
2017 F450 DRW KR 4x4
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07-22-2019, 06:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Arlington
Posts: 1,523
M.O.C. #18081
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That blue Camco particulate filter is not carbon. I filters sediment down to 5 microns. I would classify those as window dressing. We installed a three stage whole house filter as well as a UV treatment system at the kitchen tap. We also use a softener when appropriate based upon water hardness. The combination of these systems addresses hard water stains in the coach, and more importantly provides us with safe clean water without having to stock up and carry bottled water. Full timing that is something we just don’t have the room for and I don’t like putting all that plastic into land fills.
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07-22-2019, 08:01 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Twin Falls, ID
Posts: 211
M.O.C. #20361
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Are you filtering all water to kitchen faucet, or did you install a separate faucet for just filtered water?
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Jim and Barb
Chica and Baby (the fury kids)
2014 3402rl
2017 Ram 3500 6.7 ctd. 4x4 srw
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07-22-2019, 08:18 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: No Town
Posts: 432
M.O.C. #19482
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[QUOTE=TBW Ventures;1152210]We made the decision to install a Water Express 5 stage filtration system (with RO and UV). The installation was not to bad considering the small space in the island. 2 things I thought I would share;
Does/How does this system keep sediment out of the hot water tank, shower, bathroom sink? It looks like this is just for the kitchen.
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Don & Ann Wheeler:
2017 Montana 3791RD, 2017 RAM 3500 Diesel Dually, Aisin, 4.10, Sailuns, Disk Brakes, TST TPMS.
Don: USAF Ret., Fighter Pilot - Vietnam Vet '66-'67 & Ann: Ret., Texas A&M Ph.D.
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07-22-2019, 08:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Arlington
Posts: 1,523
M.O.C. #18081
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In our case we are filtering all water that enters the coach via .5 micron sediment, carbon and metal trap. We have an additional UV treatment outlet at the kitchen sink for potable water.
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2015 Volvo VNL780 D13, iShift, 32k ET air hitch, Idle Free LiFePO4 APU
16.8KWhr LiFePO4, 2.52 kw solar, 10kva Victron split phase
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07-22-2019, 08:38 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: No Town
Posts: 432
M.O.C. #19482
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW Fireguy
In our case we are filtering all water that enters the coach via .5 micron sediment, carbon and metal trap. We have an additional UV treatment outlet at the kitchen sink for potable water.
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That's what we are doing. DW will still insist on bottled water!
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Don & Ann Wheeler:
2017 Montana 3791RD, 2017 RAM 3500 Diesel Dually, Aisin, 4.10, Sailuns, Disk Brakes, TST TPMS.
Don: USAF Ret., Fighter Pilot - Vietnam Vet '66-'67 & Ann: Ret., Texas A&M Ph.D.
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07-22-2019, 10:05 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 894
M.O.C. #14417
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MidMOTraveler
Is this an issue in Canada, I’ve never been but going next year while traveling to Alaska.
I’ve never had a water problem but we run a softener and the blue carbon filter.
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I haven't any issues with water in Canada, but staying in Quartzsite for the winter something needs to be done if you want to use the water for cooking and coffee. It has a taste issue however there is not much for sediment.
Coming home this year the water at the casino RV park in Anacortes, Washington when I turned it on and let it run at the spigot I could see rusty water. I left it run until clear before hooking up the hose and running the water through the in-house water filter.
Using a water filter will in most instances take care of any problems in both countries.
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Lenny and Ros
2012 Montana 3400RL,680 Watts Solar,4xT-105 Trojans,GP-ISW2000-12 Inverter,Trimetric 2020, EMSHW50C
2009 Chevy Silverado 3500 LTZ Duramax 4x4 CC Dually, Banks Speed Brake
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07-22-2019, 11:48 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Arlington
Posts: 1,523
M.O.C. #18081
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Quote:
Originally Posted by awheeler
That's what we are doing. DW will still insist on bottled water!
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Happy wife ...happy life!
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07-22-2019, 03:39 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tacoma
Posts: 1,567
M.O.C. #20475
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We did a 3 stage system in the basement on the bake wall! If your going to the filter water start at the begging not at the end.
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Bob & Carol Washington St
2017 HC HM352RL 2018 Dodge 3500 laramie CC LB 4x4
Curt Q25 with puck system, Factory air bags
Happy Trails
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07-22-2019, 03:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pensacola (mail forward service)
Posts: 3,198
M.O.C. #13740
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We use a water softener, 5 micron sediment, then 0.5 micron ceramic jumbo, then 0.5 micron modified carbon block jumbo as final...all in the pass thru to service all water use in the trailer. The jumbo filters give us close to 5 gal per minute flow rate. These were all sourced from the rvwaterfilterstore store.
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2012 F350 6.7 L dually, 2013 3800RE with 6 pt leveling, Sumitomo 17.5" load range h tires, Samsung 18 cu ft residential fridge, 8k Morryde I.S. with disc brakes. Full timing since 2012.
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07-24-2019, 12:33 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Calgary
Posts: 60
M.O.C. #21572
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The system is just for a separate filtered water tap in the kitchen. This week is the first use and I have been happy with the capacity. The storage tank gives enough for normal use.
A big plus, my wife is happy with the water, so the battled water is gone.
I will look into a basic filter for all the water and consider a softener. The On-The-Go Softener seem to be revered to a lot in the various threads/discussions.
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Perry & Karen, Calgary, Alberta
2017 F350 SRW CC 4X4 6.7L — 2018 Montana 3720RL
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07-24-2019, 12:38 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Calgary
Posts: 60
M.O.C. #21572
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This system does not keep sediment out of the hat water tank etc. I definitely need a basic filter for the water main into the coach.
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Perry & Karen, Calgary, Alberta
2017 F350 SRW CC 4X4 6.7L — 2018 Montana 3720RL
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07-29-2019, 08:13 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Fargo
Posts: 214
M.O.C. #19032
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I'm not entirely schooled up on RO water systems, but it is my understanding that some generate about 10 gallons of waste water for every gallon of RO water they produce.
Is this correct? If it is one would need a sewer hookup to deal with that if any appreciable amount of RO water was used.
Please educate me if I have something wrong...
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2004 Montana 3295RK 2019 Ram / Cummins 2500 Summer season weekend warrior
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07-29-2019, 09:32 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pensacola (mail forward service)
Posts: 3,198
M.O.C. #13740
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All reverse osmosis systems will flush a bit of water to get what goes in the small storage tank. I seem to recall 5 lost to one gained in the best systems.
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2012 F350 6.7 L dually, 2013 3800RE with 6 pt leveling, Sumitomo 17.5" load range h tires, Samsung 18 cu ft residential fridge, 8k Morryde I.S. with disc brakes. Full timing since 2012.
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07-29-2019, 02:49 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Arlington
Posts: 1,523
M.O.C. #18081
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3-5 :1 dependent upon your particular membrane.
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2015 Volvo VNL780 D13, iShift, 32k ET air hitch, Idle Free LiFePO4 APU
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07-29-2019, 11:31 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Fargo
Posts: 214
M.O.C. #19032
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jcurtis934
All reverse osmosis systems will flush a bit of water to get what goes in the small storage tank. I seem to recall 5 lost to one gained in the best systems.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW Fireguy
3-5 :1 dependent upon your particular membrane.
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Thanks for that information. Not as bad as I thought!
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2004 Montana 3295RK 2019 Ram / Cummins 2500 Summer season weekend warrior
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07-30-2019, 08:14 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Grand Rapids
Posts: 1,898
M.O.C. #9561
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I guess we are old fashion people....Just screw on the hose, turn it on, and life goes on.
When in Mexico we do buy water however.
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07-30-2019, 08:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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We have never in years of Rv.ing had bad water anywhere taste and smell may be another story. We use a simple system purchased from the water system guy at a rally.
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