[washley1]

All I will add is that I drove the Dragon about 6 years ago without knowing it's reputation. I had a car full in the DW's Lincoln Navigator, and was not towing. I hit it as hard as I could and had a pure blast! I had so much fun my eldest son, who was riding shotgun that day, swears he will never ride in the mountains with me again! Without the Monty, if you are in the area, take the ride...at your own pace!