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topjustice 02-10-2018 07:03 PM

Another DRW Question
 
Just pulled the trigger today on a new F350 DRW. Traded in my 2015 F350 SRW. My SRW had Firestone air bags with on board compressor. Should I put the same on the DRW? The dry pin weight of the 3791RD I am getting is 2835 lbs. Will I need the bags for leveling? Thanks for any opinions.

waynemoore 02-10-2018 07:39 PM

I would put air bags in it as the pin weight will go up when you load the rig.

ExPatNW 02-10-2018 08:22 PM

I have a 2017 F450 with a 2017 3790RD - rides level (if anything a little nose high)- see no need for air bags myself.

Bigdog 02-10-2018 09:26 PM

I have a 2015 F350 dually with a 2016 3950BR. Rides level and not on the overload springs. No need for air bags.

1retired06 02-10-2018 10:21 PM

I installed airbags on our F350 DRW. The rear sag under load was unacceptable.

jlb27537 02-15-2018 08:35 AM

I would hook up loaded trailer and see how much it sags. FIRST. My '12 Ram, with 32-3500lbs of pin weight does Not need air bags. After 1000 miles of towing it had sagged and sat level. New it was pin high, squat was never a consern.

mlh 02-15-2018 09:03 AM

I would wait until you get the truck and hook up the camper, then decide if you need to do anything. No need to go to a lot of trouble and expense it it’s not needed.
Lynwood

dieselguy 02-15-2018 10:12 AM

I put air bags on my dually whether it needed it for weight sag or not. The air bags will "somewhat" cushion the ride and any fiver or TT's frame will benefit from that cushion no matter the percentage. They are really not that expensive ... you just bought a $$$$$ truck without blinking.

Mr Pachu 02-15-2018 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by topjustice (Post 1087883)
Just pulled the trigger today on a new F350 DRW. Traded in my 2015 F350 SRW. My SRW had Firestone air bags with on board compressor. Should I put the same on the DRW? The dry pin weight of the 3791RD I am getting is 2835 lbs. Will I need the bags for leveling? Thanks for any opinions.

My 2017 F350 DRW with 2015 3790RD. Loaded trailer pin weight of 3,850 lbs. and no air bags on the truck. Trailer weight was 16,550 lbs.

topjustice 02-15-2018 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mlh (Post 1088332)
I would wait until you get the truck and hook up the camper, then decide if you need to do anything. No need to go to a lot of trouble and expense it itís not needed.
Lynwood

Normally I would wait as you suggested but in this case I will be going about 1900 miles to pick up the Montana, and would want them installed for the trip home if needed. I also negotiated when I bought the truck that the Ford dealer will install the bags and compressor at employee rates of $50 hr. Good deal if needed but there are split opinions on the need.

Eagleback 02-16-2018 05:43 AM

I owned a 1996 Chevy DRW 454 and needed them then but I have never seen in my observations a new 3500 or f350 DRW needing airbags just to pull a 5th wheel. Your new truck is more than capable to haul any monty with only having to adjust the hitch up or down a hole or two. on older models there was a need but not now. I think you are wasting your money but its your choice and if it make you feel better go for it. Ram has an auto level system option in place of the springs. but that's not really designed for pulling 5th wheels or goose necks. it is for pulling construction trailers on the pintle hitch and there you need help with air bags when you have 17000 lbs on the bumper.

WeBeFulltime 02-16-2018 07:16 AM

Actual CAT Scale certified weight of our loaded 2018.5 3791RD is 3,500 lb. I pull with 2012 F350 SD PSD SRW and although not required I have Air Lift bags with on-board air just for the improved ride.

speedster100 02-16-2018 08:17 AM

The beauty of the 3790/91 is you can load it heavy on the rear or the front due in part to the huge storage in each area. We keep most of the weight other than our bikes in the rear and thus the pin weight is right in around the 2900lb mark. Trailer & truck ride better with the weight on the rear.... Its a model that gives you choices......

richfaa 02-16-2018 08:37 AM

Our 08 F-350 sagged 2 1/2 inches in the rear with heavy duty springs OEM We wanted everything level so went with the air bags to do that. Riding even improves the ride and helps with tire wear. Just our choice.

Recumbent 02-16-2018 10:25 AM

We have a 2017 F350 SRW short bed and and it does not sag below level towing our 2013 Montana 3725RL that also rides level to slightly high without airbags, and we have ample clearance between truck rails and Montana and have an auto slider hitch. We wished to stay within legal specs for towing our 5th wheel and ordered the truck to be built focusing on maximum cargo/tow capacity including the tires and wheels. It must be the deference in how/what we load in the basement and front bedroom areas.

mtlakejim 02-16-2018 10:58 AM

I haven't purchased air bags yet but may do it not for any leveling concerns but for the ride improvement. Anything that helps with Chucking is good in my book. Considering the easy install and relatively low cost it seems like a reasonable thing to do.....

Recumbent 02-16-2018 11:43 AM

If we ever need airbags I would put them on. When we ordered our F350 the dealer/owner said if we needed airbags he would install them for us at no labor costs, just cost airbags. He suggested we tow for awhile then let him know and so far we have not needed them. We did have them on our 2010 F250 and it made a lot of difference. Then we did not need them on our 2012 F350 DRW, and now again on our 2017 F350 all appears at or above level.

Captain 'Murica 02-27-2018 07:01 PM

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When I had my 2014 F-250 I had the Firestone Ride-Rite Airbags. They helped keep the truck riding level. When I switched over to my new 2017 F-350 DRW it was obvious after the first tow that I did not need to add bags. I just purchased a new Montana HC 385BR with a dry pin weight of 2660 and it rides level (pic below).

Its just my opinion, but I don't think that you will need to add bags. However, if it makes you feel better, then absolutely go for it.

JABURKHOLDER 02-27-2018 07:12 PM

I have Timbrens on my F350. The suspension is so stiff with the High Capacity Tow Package, Snow Plow Package and Camper Package that the ride quality was not affected by the Timbrens. The sag however, is now only approx. 1 inch and rides level and smooth. Cheaper and easier to install too.

richfaa 02-27-2018 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JABURKHOLDER (Post 1089953)
I have Timbrens on my F350. The suspension is so stiff with the High Capacity Tow Package, Snow Plow Package and Camper Package that the ride quality was not affected by the Timbrens. The sag however, is now only approx. 1 inch and rides level and smooth. Cheaper and easier to install too.

Same issue but we went the airbag route.


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